slimboyfat?
I do not understand what you mean that it did not deliver on its title? I am so sorry to tick you off and waste your time.
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Latest KM says we need to being willing to sacrifice our life like Jonah did!!!
by life is to short inin case any of you wondered why those two poor women who were attacked by the pit bull and probably ignored warning signs of a dag being in the yard and posted signs went to the door anyway.. here it is from the latest april 2013 km front page titled "take as a pattern the prophets-jonah".
paragraph #3 "when jonah realized that his bad decision had jeopardized the lives of the mariners, he was willing to sacrifice his life.
(jonah 1:3, 4, 12) later, when fulfilling his commission in nineveh, he walked deep into the heart of the city, perhaps looking for a suitable location to proclaim the judgment of jehovah.
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Latest KM says we need to being willing to sacrifice our life like Jonah did!!!
by life is to short inin case any of you wondered why those two poor women who were attacked by the pit bull and probably ignored warning signs of a dag being in the yard and posted signs went to the door anyway.. here it is from the latest april 2013 km front page titled "take as a pattern the prophets-jonah".
paragraph #3 "when jonah realized that his bad decision had jeopardized the lives of the mariners, he was willing to sacrifice his life.
(jonah 1:3, 4, 12) later, when fulfilling his commission in nineveh, he walked deep into the heart of the city, perhaps looking for a suitable location to proclaim the judgment of jehovah.
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I agree I am not buying this anymore but I did when I was in, or I sort of bought into it. I guess I never totally bought into it because I thought going to homes with no trespassing signs and beware of dog sings was stupid. To me it was rude and stupid to call on someone who clearly did not want us there. But I had no chose when everyone in the car group vetoed my concerns. I was put down, made to feel stupid, told I lacked faith, etc. My husband at the time insisted that no trespassing signs did not apply to JW's.We went to one home where the guy pulled a gun on my husband and shot it into the air, told us to get off his land and the next time he would shoot us. I begged and pleaded with my husband to write him down as a do not call. NO WAY, this guy was not going to decide for everyone else who might live in the house and besides he was drunk. My husband reasoned that the next time him might not be so drunk and get so upset.
We lived in the country and everyone had dogs and no trespassing signs I was told if we stopped going to those home was we have no one to call on. I could not argue that because it was true there would be no one left to talk to.
I hated it, I hated service but I bought into that we had to do it because Jehovah demanded it of us. So much of it made no sense and was such a total waste of time.
What makes me so upset about this KM is that a part like this would have feed fuel to the fire and I would have been bulled so horribly, and I was, I was shown WT's and KM's and you name it to shame me about my fear of dogs. To read about these poor lady's is maddening.
This KM just made my blood boil and your right LHG Jonah did not give his life he hid out until nothing else worked he did not jump to kill himself and it is not a literally story anyway from how I feel now.
It just makes me mad see this KM after what happened to these women and Outlaw you are right on again I loved your post as it so very true. They would kill themselves for the GB.
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Latest KM says we need to being willing to sacrifice our life like Jonah did!!!
by life is to short inin case any of you wondered why those two poor women who were attacked by the pit bull and probably ignored warning signs of a dag being in the yard and posted signs went to the door anyway.. here it is from the latest april 2013 km front page titled "take as a pattern the prophets-jonah".
paragraph #3 "when jonah realized that his bad decision had jeopardized the lives of the mariners, he was willing to sacrifice his life.
(jonah 1:3, 4, 12) later, when fulfilling his commission in nineveh, he walked deep into the heart of the city, perhaps looking for a suitable location to proclaim the judgment of jehovah.
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In case any of you wondered why those two poor women who were attacked by the pit bull and probably ignored warning signs of a dag being in the yard and posted signs went to the door anyway.
Here it is from the latest April 2013 KM front page titled "Take as a Pattern the Prophets-Jonah"
Paragraph #3 "When Jonah realized that his bad decision had jeopardized the lives of the mariners, he was willing to sacrifice his life. (Jonah 1:3, 4, 12) Later, when fulfilling his commission in Nineveh, he walked deep into the heart of the city, perhaps looking for a suitable location to proclaim the judgment of Jehovah. Those where the actions, not of a coward, but of a courageous prophet of God! (Jonah 3:3, 4) What about us today? God-given courage is needed to give a bold witness in the face of opposition. (Acts 4:29, 31) Self-sacrifice is required to invest time and resources in the ministry.- Acts 20: 24."
And for those of you who wondered why someone would go to a door who was afraid of dogs, terrified of them like I was but yet I still went was because I was being told this stuff in the car group. I was told that I had no courage, I was a coward, I did not trust Jehovah, and you name it I was told it.
I feel so horrible and it just breaks my heart for those two poor women, even if they recover they will never be the same, it just affects you mentally being attacked. I was attacked when I was a child thus my fear of dogs now. And for what did those women give their lives because of some garbage like this. It just makes my heart hurt.
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Suspected Jehovah's Witnesses attacked by pitbull in the preaching work
by cedars inhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mtrdafq0xac.
i guess this sort of thing is bound to happen, even though the society implies that angels are out there protecting jehovah's witnesses from harm.. interestingly, it wasn't an angel who came to the rescue, but a "worldly" bystander with his gun.. .
cedars.
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I was terrified of dogs have been every since I as a little kid.
I was ridiculed, mocked, put down, made to feel like I had no faith, etc when I was out in service if I refused to go to a home with a dog becuase the dog scarred me.
The dogs always sensed my fear and they would come at me, I have been told over and over by JW's that I lacked trust in Jehovah that was why dogs bit me. I kid you not.
I have put myself in danger so many times it is unreal. There was one time where I knew this home had a mean dog and it was my door. I was in a car group of four other sisters and I begged them to just write it down for letter writing, This aggressive sister told me NO WAY it was my door and that I had better get out of the car. There was no dog in sight so it was clear to the car group that I just did not want to talk at the door. I went to the door shaking and sure enough the dog came tearing out from the back, he was a wicked mean German Shepard I ran for my life and barley made it back to the car. I was so scarred and all the sisters in the car were laughing their heads off at me telling me I looked so stupid.
I have been bit six or seven times, one bit did not break the skin but it bruised so bad that it took six months to heal. We were pioneering and I had no money to go to the doctor. My husband asked me why I allowed the dog to bit me. I just wanted to cry. It just really hurt my feelings more than anything because he did not care, it was like it was my fault.
I have been told that I was faking my fear of dogs just so I did not have to go to the door because I did not want to save peoples lives, I was trying to get out of talking, taking my fair share of the doors.
Yet I have been with other JW's who have been afraid of dogs and they get away with not going where there are dogs. I do not know why there was such a difference with me.
One time I was bit by a small dog an ankle bitter and my husband said Jehovah let it happen because the guy was so afraid we might sue he stood and listened to my husband for over an hour, my husband said if the dog had not bit me the guy would not have gotten a witness, so Jehovah allowed it to happen and it was no big deal just a small wound.
The bottom line is I had no choice but to go to doors with bad dogs, I do not know why I was forced to but I was FORCED TO. I know to most of you that makes no sense why did'nt I just say no. I did, I begged, pleaded, even cried not to make me go to the doors with bad dogs, but I was told it was my service to Jehovah to go to ALL DOORS. I have even been told that they would not move the car until I got out. Now I find it hard to believe myself but it was how I was treated in feild service.
The pain of how I was treated by my fellow JW's hurts more then any dog bite.
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Any "inappropriate" or "saucy" conversations out in Field Service car groups???
by Gojira_101 ini thought of one that happened to me, i think i was 16 and regular pioneering at the time.
i was in fs with my friend, i think she had to be about 18, and we were in a van with older married sisters, my friend and i were the only single ones.
there were 6 of us in this van and my friend and i of course were forced to sit in the back (meaning we couldn't escape by jumping out of a moving van), anyway, the conversation turned to discussing molestation.. the two oldest sisters sitting in the front then started going into detail about how they had been molested, and it wasn't just "i was molested by..." no they went into detail.. i was shocked!
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There was one sister who was an elders wife and pioneer who felt all sisters should wear throng underwear. I mean she went on and and on about it. It was like she was the underwear police and I thought for some minutes she was going to check what all of us had on. It was beyond maddening. Also how she LOOOOOOOOOOVED oral sex, I mean she LOVED IT! but to please Jehovah she and her husband were refraining from it. Why we needed to know that was beyond my thinking.
She was also one of the most looked up to and respected women in the hall. All the elders loved her and thought she walked on water. She was always on assembly parts and used when ever an elder could.
This is only the tip of what I could say about field service it was truly stupid what was talked about in service. I am a very privite person and what was talked about made me feel very uncomfortable. I truly used to wonder where Jehovah's angles were and why they allowed it.
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JW women in critical condition after being attacked by pit bull while out in service
by JimmyPage inhttp://www.tulsaworld.com/news/article.aspx?subjectid=11&articleid=20130319_11_0_twowom831238.
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I was bitten seven times in field service. I was terrified of dogs but I was married to an elder and we were pioneers working where the CO deemed the need was great which was the country and everyone had dogs.
Even if the house holder had beware of dog signs posted, etc it did not matter because we had to go to warn them of Jehovah's wrath.
I was so scarred so many times, I would sometimes beg and plead not to go to a door because of the dogs but I was always belittled and put down and told that I lacked faith and where was my trust in Jehovah?
When I would get bit I was told it was my fault that I did not have enough faith, etc. I remember one time the householder was just in a really bad mood and she had this blue healer kind of dog, it was my door and she was just frustrated that us JW's were bothering her the dog was in the way and she kicked the dog out the door and as he ran by me he bit me hard right below my knee. It hurt like heck and I was not sure if I was bleeding, I was not so mad at the dog as he had just been kicked really hard himself but I was in so much pain. The lady slammed the door in our face and as I limped back to the car my husband asked me why I allowed the dog to bit me. I just wanted to cry.
The dog did not break my skin but it bruised really bad, it did tissue damage and I had this ugly bruise that took six months to heal.
Another time the householder was rude and slammed the door in our face as we were leaving the yard I felt a sharp pain in my ankle and looked down to see a small dog biting me. The householder came running out scarred out of his mind that we were going to sue him. He grabbed the dog and apologized his brains out. I was bleeding but my husband told him I was fine and processed to spend the next hour talking to this guy who stood and listened just glad we were not going to sue him.When we finally got back to the car my husband told me Jehovah let the dog bit me as now the householder was able to get a witness, I kid you not. There was no mention of how I was, if I was hurt, or needed to at the very least wipe the blood of my ankle, it was just carry on as usual.
To me what hurt more then the pain of being bit which truly did hurt but what hurt the most was the reaction of the JW's I was with including my husband and that was to put the blame on me. It was my lack of faith, my not being strong enough, my having a fear of dogs, my not trusting in Jehovah enough, etc. And for the longest time I believed all the garbage that I was being told. None of the other JW's seemed to have the problem with dogs that I did, and I bought into the fact that it must be me that Jehovah was mad at me, etc.
Not one JW ever asked me once after I was bit if I was OK or showed any concern toward me at all including my husband. I was blamed for every dog bit I received.
That pain I carry until today.
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Post cataract surgery Great News!
by Lady Lee inmy vision before the surgery was 20/60 in the eye that has had the surgery.
i saw my eye dr today and it has moved up to 20/30.
this is way beyond what i expected.
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But, they're so HAPPY!
by stillin inyou can't deny it.
smiling and brimming with good cheer.
is it sort of like the person who buys a lemon of a car and won't admit it?
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I too put on a happy face, I would make the comments that you never have a bad day in field service doing Jehovah's work. That this is not the real life and that we should pioneer now as we will have forever in the new system.
I told everyone I was so happy but I was dying inside. I thought about suicide almost every waking minute while I went door to door. My husband and I never had a family as he was always busy being an elder. Looking back I truly remember no happy times but I lied to myself and believed the lie. I was so depressed it was unreal and I did not know where or how to get help.
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Taking Elders Out of their Comfort Zone; The Little Room
by TMS inin the mid-90's my wife faced a bogus charge of gossiping.
the charge was based on a fleshly sister of a jw easedropping on a conversation.
we fought the charge with the elders unable to produce any credible report of the actual conversation.
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OTWO I know that elders are not to talk to sisters alone and I knew it then also, I kick myself for going into the room alone but it happened a lot to me and I truly thought that it was God's true religion and I had nothing to fear.
I was so wrong, the elders loved to get me alone and say hurtful things to me which when I brought up to others what the elder had said to me the elders quickly denied everything. I look back now and am amazed at what all happened to me. Even my husband allowing it as after the huge battle over the pedophile and my being told I had to accept him as a brother in the truth or ELSE I went to talk to the than PO COBE at his home this was just in 2010. This guy was OLD in his early 90's but his mind was sharp. He sent his wife out of the room so it was just him and myself. He just started LYING. Telling me I was making up everything from my own abuse, that he knew my father and he knew my father never abused me. Than he went on to the fact that the pedophile never raped kids. He was saying that the pedophile deserved a chance and I was causing divisions in the hall by my dislike of the child molester.
I had brought my Bible with me and I was showing him scriptures from the Bible which ticked him off to no end as I was just a women how dare I.
He finally starting shaking and told me I was a woman who needed to know her place in the hall and I was stepping out of LINE.
Why I allowed myself to be lead into the backroom alone and why I went with them I cannot answer now. Never in a million years would I allwow myself to be treated that way now. And why my husband did not flip seeing me crying my eyes out over how horrible they talked to me is mind boggling to me now why did he not throw a fit when he saw me alone with these elders? I just think we were both kind of blind sided by it all. My husband could not and still is having a hard time seeing the reality that they hid pedophiles in the hall even through it is right in front of him. We just got into a fight about it again last night in that they have reinstated the pedophile and he is back going door to door, but it is in the next hall over and my husband is swearing to me that NOW the pedophile is going flanked by three to four elders. I was so flipped out last night fighting with my husband over it, how stupid can my husband be. I told him it never happened in our hall but he said the other hall is different. Yeh right. And why does a pedophile need to go door to door flanked by three to four men????????????????????????????????
I was just such a true believer that I never thought something like this would happen. My husband thought he knew these men they were his fellow elders and they way they turned on him also was amazing and why my husband still goes to the meetings and puts himself around this sucm drives me crazy. These elders could care less about my husband when he had his heart attacks they still kept dumping on him all of the stuff that they as elders would not do. All the ones in the hall who had problems my husband was the one who the elders gave these people to because these elders needed to spend time with their family's and they just did not have the energy to handle the crazies in the hall they can only help the pedophiles.
What I cannot understand is why the elders put themselves to be alone with me. They were the ones who initiated talking to me alone. I never asked to speak to any elder alone. They were the ones dragging me into the backroom and the friends in the hall saw it and yet said nothing! Then they said I was crazy and I was mentally ill and I was insane.
I truly felt I was going crazy as they denied, denied, denied, denied, denied everything they said to me alone, it was so crazy making I could not wrap my mind around it.
I really think in my heart that they were trying to drive me insane or to have me commit suicide but for what reason I do not understand.
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Taking Elders Out of their Comfort Zone; The Little Room
by TMS inin the mid-90's my wife faced a bogus charge of gossiping.
the charge was based on a fleshly sister of a jw easedropping on a conversation.
we fought the charge with the elders unable to produce any credible report of the actual conversation.
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I have had experiences very similar to your wife's. When the pedophile first moved in the hall I attended my husband was an elder, the school overseer. Yet it did not stop the other elders from talking to me alone in the back room and unlike your wife I went along with it, oh how I wish I had not gone along with the elders in talking to them alone. I will never forget this one time when the attorney elder we have in the hall got really mad at me and told me to come with him. He yanked me into the back room alone and started to yell at me telling me that my husband and I made him look bad and he did not like that. He felt he had egg on his face and NO ONE EVER MADE HIM LOOK LIKE HE HAD EGG ON HIS FACE AND WOULD GET AWAY WITH IT!!!
Now mind you I was alone with this elder in the back room, it was now my word against his of anything he said. I started crying as I was so blindsided by his anger and he was PISSED AT ME!I was really a true believer and I never thought in a million years this could be happening. I went home that night and tried to commit suicide by taking to many sleeping pills. I never told my husband that I took the pills.
My husband walked in and asked what we were doing alone in the back room together and this elder glared at me, told my husband he was washing his hands of us and stormed out of the room. But this elder wasn't done his goal was to destroy me and drive me from the hall so he could keep the pedophile in. Which he did.
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